Saturday, June 20, 2009

Blood in the streets: More than 150 dead in Iran?

If you can't handle seeing what violent death looks like, DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK!!!

So what's the official response of the Obamnation to the Iranian government?

He called on them to "stop all violent and unjust actions against its own people".

More from Mighty Mouse Redux:
"I'm very concerned based on some of the tenor and tone of the statements that have been made that the government of Iran recognizes that the world is watching. How they approach and deal with people who are, through peaceful means, trying to be heard will, I think, send a pretty clear signal to the international community about what Iran is and is not."
Wow!

What strength of purpose! What decisive leadership!

This gives me so much confidence in our Fearless Leader's ability to handle another major terrorist attack on our nation!

More, from Rich Lowery:
"As hundreds of thousands of Iranian protesters march for democracy, in defiance of a government that is our committed enemy, Pres. Barack Obama resorts to lawyerly equivocations. He labors to avoid saying anything denoting untoward disapproval of the baton-wielding shock troops of Iran's theocracy.

In a perverse irony, we are witnessing the most serious threat to the Islamic Republic since its establishment, at the same time the first American president explicitly to accept the regime's legitimacy happens to be in office. Whatever credibility the mullahs have lost in the street, they have picked up in the Oval Office, where the president bizarrely seems less enthusiastic about a change in dispensation in Iran than much of Tehran's population."

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13 comments:

  1. The Iranians, the so called 'reformist ones,' want the US to stay out of it. They don't want help, nor do they want the overthrow of the 'Supreme Leader', at least not yet.

    They just want their votes counted.

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  2. Nobody said anything about "help" for the Iranians seeking freedom from an oppressive government.
    But Obama has effectively surrendered our country as a bastion of freedom and democracy. Obama's statements make it clear the USA can no longer be counted on to support freedom and democracy anywhere in the world.
    Even France and Germany have issued statements supporting freedom in Iran. Obama has refused, and thereby washed his hands (and ours by default) of supporting oppressed people in the rest of the world.
    Obama's actions are a slap in the face to every soldier who ever fought for the ideal of freedom in our country, and a kick in the guts to the families of those vets who sacrificed their lives for a freedom Obama disgustingly disdains.
    Obama has disgraced our country in ways that will be felt for years to come. The image of the USA to the rest of the world is now a sad, sick joke thanks to the egregious and incompetent actions of a narcissistic man who thinks he's the Messiah.
    God help us, because Obama won't.

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  3. No want the Iranaians want is some fucking freedom. 100% democracy.

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  4. Iran is no democracy...counted votes or not.

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  5. jaycee, I'm interested in what the French have said. I haven't been able to find the entire statement, but the bits quoted in articles seem rather similar to Obama's own.

    the only appreciable difference is this from the Fench, "French officials expressed "our worries about allegations of irregularities" in Friday's vote"

    Otherwise, they said this, "We also expressed our hope that freedom of expression and demonstration will be respected," the statement said. "Finally, we repeated our condemnation of the numerous arrests made since Saturday, particularly those of political figures."

    Which is pretty similar to Obama's, "The universal rights to assembly and free speech must be respected, and the United States stands with all who seek to exercise those rights."

    Now, I recognize the difference. I also recognize that support from President Obama will give Ahmadinejad a strawman of American interventionism to beat up. Strong vocal support that can be perceived as support for the other mullah-approved, slightly less crazy candidate essentially ensures that nothing will change and will be seen as help, whether it is or not.

    Of course, we don't even know who won. All we know for sure is that Ahmadinejad most likely didn't win by as much as they say he did.

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  6. Iran gov't officials are already blaming the U.S. for their troubles, which is laughable as Obama is waffling around and sitting on the fence for fear of actually taking a stand based on his moral principles because he lacks any.
    It took Obama 11 days into the crisis to issue a wishy-washy, take-no-sides statement. Other countries in the world acted on principle and supported freedom and democracy from the start.
    Obama has, once again, done nothing for days while a crisis begs for acknowledgment. I'm reminded of the Somali pirate incident when Obama forced the Captain to endure 5 days of captivity and deprivation while he tried every liberal "trick" only to see them all fail and the situation wrested from his hands by the military and finally resolved in spite of our President.

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  7. all i can say is that iranians are glad Obama has not anything about the election. While it is true that a stronger condemnation of the violence might be appreciated, you have praised the French and they use similar language.

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  8. http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1245184851049&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

    I have no way to prove or disprove the claims in the Jerusalem Post. But they are thought provoking.

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  9. Where do you think Hamas gets the bulk of its funding for operations?

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  10. rahrah, my point was that Obama is not a leader, he's a follower.
    He sat back and watched and waited and judged which way the wind was blowing and THEN made a lukewarm statement which may or may not be interpreted as supportive.
    Obama is not a world leader. He's a coward who plays with people's lives.

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  11. It is my opinion that what he did was the basically the right thing...as a leader. He is not the leader of Iran and speaking out would have very likely made things worse rather than better. The US is not France or Germany and I think that we'd probably agree that our words mean a lot more theirs and that we'd be a bigger boogeyman for the status quo Iranians.

    But you're welcome to your opinion.

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  12. In my opinion, what he did was basically the wrong thing.
    Speaking out in support of freedom and democracy is never the wrong thing to do.
    The U.S. president is the defacto leader of the world, but Obama steadfastly does not lead, he merely follows. But, what can we expect? As was pointed out again and again during the campaigns, Obama lacks any leadership experience, he lacks adminstrative experience, he's never been the leader of anything before in his life. He's the wrong man in the wrong place, a racial token who lacks even rudimentary skills for the position in which he finds himself. And it is we, the citizens of the world, who will suffer and die for this fool's ineptitude.
    Obama shirks his duty in a leadership role. He hems and haws and refuses to take a stand on difficult issues, instead letting the situation fester while people die until he sees which direction his polls and focus groups tell him to go.
    He's a coward, and a political animal who cares not if people die while he fritters around eating $100 a pound waygo steak and watching his portly wife feed the poor while wearing $540 tennis shoes.

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  13. I think we've both stated our opinions enough. FWIW, Obama has denounced the violence.

    Either way, people like Henry Kissinger think he's doing the right thing, and that's what being a leader is about, doing the right thing...and sometimes the right thing is holding your tongue.

    Henry K. statements: http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/18/kissinger-obama-iran/

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