In addition to what Porter Goss has said about Pelosi and Company's awareness, there's this:
"Ms. Pelosi's denials are also difficult to square with a chronology of 40 CIA briefings to Congressional Members compiled by the CIA and released this week by Director Leon Panetta. For the September 4, 2002 meeting, the CIA's summary of the discussion reads: 'Briefing on EITs including use of EITs on Abu Zubaydah, background on authorities, and a description of the particular EITs that had been employed.' We emphasize the verb tense to underscore the contradiction with Ms. Pelosi's categorical denials of last month."
....and:
"On February 4, 2003, Senators Pat Roberts and Jay Rockefeller of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence were given a briefing in which 'EITs [were] "described in considerable detail,'including "how the water board was used."' The process by which the techniques were approved by DoJ was also raised.' The document also adds that Mr. Rockefeller, the Committee's ranking Democrat, was later given an 'individual briefing.'Nor was that the only time Mr. Rockefeller, who chaired the Committee from 2007 to 2009, heard from the CIA. The West Virginian was briefed at least 12 times more about interrogation techniques, legal authorities and other aspects of the program. The last, in June 2008, was offered to 10 members of the Senate Intelligence Committee and covered "discussion of EITs and the OLC [Office of Legal Counsel] opinions. Specific mentions of waterboarding numerous time.' "
....finally:
"....perhaps the CIA should release whatever notes they kept of the briefings. Our guess is that's one pile of memos Speaker Pelosi & Co. aren't especially eager to declassify."Yes, let's see them.
Don't hold your breath.
So where's the call from "principled" Dems for Pelosi's resignation?
Again, don't hold your breath.
Excerpt:
"The excuses trotted out in her defense so far are pretty pathetic. See this anonymously authored Center for American Progress post as a good example. One talking point--that Pelosi wasn't specifically informed about waterboarding--is particularly laughable. As Goldfarb notes below, Rep. Hoekstra says there are documents showing otherwise, and Allahpundit points out that Pelosi was briefed just a month after Zubaydah was waterboarded repeatedly: 'Consider the context of when the briefing was held — one week before 9/11/02, when fears of an anniversary attack were sky high — and ask yourself why the CIA wouldn’t have told Pelosi they had waterboarded Zubaydah?'
It certainly looks like Pelosi knew about waterboarding, and if she didn't she was certainly briefed about other interrogation techniques. Do her apologists think that waterboarding is the only technique that qualifies as torture?"
On the other hand, most of us think that the phrase "principled Democrats" is an oxymoron of the highest degree.
What about Obama spying on us? http://jumpinginpools.blogspot.com/2009/05/obama-more-traffic-cameras-needed-to.html
ReplyDeletePelosi was every bit as informed on the decision to us EITs as were the GOP... but is now lying about it in an attempt to appease the antiwar left and fulfill specious campaign posturing.
ReplyDeleteAnd apparently Pelosi and Obama forgot something: the CIA KILLS people... it's in their job description. Did these two really think that these killers were going to take-one-for-the-team... when the team captain is a lying, incompetent, arrogant nebbish who has basically told them they need to kiss his ring? -please
Obama really kicked an ant hill with his ill-advised and politically motivated release of Bush Administration memos regarding EITs.
Let's have a hearing and get it all out there, shall we? Then watch the rats scatter who attacked Bush for protecting the country from terrorist attack... but who clearly knew what was going on five years before we heard a peep out of them.
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