Saturday, December 30, 2006

A blast from the past regarding climate change

How's this for "scientific consensus"?

Change a few words around, and you have the same thing the "Global Warming" crowd is saying today.

4 comments:

  1. Your continued persistence on this issue astounds even me. You as well as anyone knows how much things change in 30 years, especially in the field of science.

    I suggest you read this article. An interesting point:

    "According to a graph and other scientific findings displayed by the pair, in 1986 there were less than 1,000 scientific articles on climate change and global warming per year compared to more than 6,000 in 2006."

    And that was in 1986, not 1976 as your quaint little scan shows. How much more evidence and data do you think exists now to support the fact that climate change is occuring? I'll give you a hint, its alot more than 1,000 peer reviewed articles.

    I have to say that I am looking forward to the day when you finally acknoledge that climate change is real and that man is at least partly to blame. And don't kid yourself, that day *will* indeed come. Your president has already taken steps to acknowledge it, but you refused to comment on that fact.

    Governments around the world are taking steps to help find solutions to the problem. Over 50 cities in the US have adopted the Kyoto protocols because they see the effects and have the forsight to do something.

    But not you.

    For you there is no consensus. For you there is no problem.

    I pray this year that God will give the strength to people such as yourself to see the truth and start becoming part of the solution instead of part of the problem. You are obviously an intelligent person Bubba which makes your continued insistence that things are not drastically wrong, all the more puzzling.

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  2. Pay attention, Idiot Child: I will say this once and once only.

    1. Nobody denies climate change exists. What we are talking here is the nonsense of "scientific consensus" about "global warming".

    2. If such a thing as "global warming "exists, there is more than compelling evince that "global cooling" exists, and is cyclical. It's happened before, and will happen again.

    3. The "evidence" cited in "support of "permanent global warming", as True Believers like you like to believe in, is based on agenda-driven tricked-up "models", as Pat Michaels and Richard Lindzen have proven.

    4. Greenhouse gas a as primary cause of global warming is suspect at best, as detailed here.

    Excerpts:

    "Total human contributions to greenhouse gases account for only about 0.28% of the "greenhouse effect" (Figure 2). Anthropogenic (man-made) carbon dioxide (CO2) comprises about 0.117% of this total, and man-made sources of other gases ( methane, nitrous oxide (NOX), other misc. gases) contributes another 0.163% .

    Approximately 99.72% of the 'greenhouse effect' is due to natural causes -- mostly water vapor and traces of other gases, which we can do nothing at all about. Eliminating human activity altogether would have little impact on climate change."

    5. Solar activity has been established as the most like cause for what you and your fellow True Believers call "global warming".

    6. The anthropogenic contribution to greenhouse gas has been established as an infinitesimally small amount. There is no indication that even a complete elimination of such will have any effect on your "global warming"

    7. To significantly reduce anthropogenic contributions to "global warming" requires technology not yet feasible.

    8. The cost factor to develop and implement reduction efforts for reduction in anthropogenic CO2 would be socially unacceptable, even for fools like you.

    9. The True Believers' alarmist propaganda has been thoroughly exposed, as exemplified by this.

    Excerpt:

    "Imaginary conversation: Sam: 'Gee, Mabel, the tomaters ain't so big as last year's. It must be global warming.'

    Mabel: 'You planted them three weeks later this year, Sam, cuz you wuz glued to the telly.'

    Sam: 'Jus' waitin' fer the Matt Lauer special, Mabel. Ever since NBC tole me in 1990 I could soon tie my boat to the Washington Monument cuz of global warming, I bin waitin' for my chance to catch fish on the Mall. 'Bout time we got somethin' useful outa Washington."



    10.. Finally, it's clear that all the babble, dribble, drool and spew produced by people like you on this subject is politically motivated to stop the rest of us from showing the nature of the True Believers agenda, as discussed here.

    Excerpt:

    "Not only is everyone supposed to concede that the planet has been warming--as it has--but we are all supposed to salute and agree that human beings are the definitive cause, that the magnitude of the warming will be disastrous and its effects catastrophic, that such problems as AIDS and poverty are less urgent, and that economic planners must therefore impose vast new regulatory burdens on everyone around the world."



    There is much more to be said about this nonsense you propagate, but I don't have the time or energy to help you fix your lack of understanding.

    It would no doubt be a complete waste on my part.

    Plus, you need to know: It is NOT going to go down like you folks want.

    Deal with it.

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  3. Like I said in my post, I will pray for you and hope that you and others like you open your eyes to the evidence all around you.

    Every day something on the order of 50 million tons of carbon are removed from the ground in solid form and converted in one way or another to carbon dioxide.

    This is not a cyclical process and has not been happening for millions of years. It started quite recently and the results are evident in the world all around you.

    So call me fool. Call me idiot, call me any name you want. Headlines continue to come. Evidence continues to mount. Eventually heads will indeed roll because people like you didn't see fit to connect the dots earlier.

    I don't expect your stubbornness to change in time to help solve the problem, so all I can really offer is my sympathy and prayers.

    Happy new year Bubba.

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  4. Complete and absolute bullshit.....and par for the sourse.

    Your little spiel on this subject are long on phony rhetoric, and short on actual facts.


    "Evidence continues to mount."

    ...that you are just another partisan hack who will SAY or DO ANYTHING to support an over-hyped, intellectually dishonest and contrived cherished Libthink cause, regardless of the facts involved, regardless of the cost and consequences to the rest of the world.

    That's what the mounting evidence continues to show.

    Your fake 1000 year temperature chart (long since exposed as fraudulent) from your first post shows how intellectually dishonest you clowns really are about this issue.

    Once again, there is no such thing as "scientific consensus" on "global warming".....

    Deal with it this New Year, and do yourself and the rest of us a big favor.

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