You think it's hot this summer? Read this.
As one who has endured many a hot, muggy DC summer, I can relate. Back in the 19th centuy, British diplomats posted to the Washington DC embassy were given tropical duty pay, the same as given to those assigned to equatorial nation duty.
Also, the True Believers are getting wiser. Only the most intellectually challenged knee jerk reactionaries among them are trumpeting Pat Robertson's recent statements on the subject.
"....the temperatures in the summer of 1930 are irrelevant."
ReplyDeleteFor the same reason that temperatures this summer are also irrelevant.
None of us have made the assertion that Human induced global warming is evidenced by a hot summer. It's summer. It's hot. We get it.
ReplyDeleteI think there are a number of larger environmental indicators that point to general warming through the past few decades. Things like being forced to drop the "perma" from "permafrost."
Don't worry, when it is cold for a few weeks this winter, Pat will change back.
Additional indicators other than the loss of permafrost include increasing areas of coral "bleaching" in the Great Barrier Reef, loss of thousands of acres of pine forest in the Smokey Mountains due to beetle infestations (that are usually killed off by cold weather), increased land erosion in the Philippines from gradually rising sea levels, mosquitoes breeding in ever higher elevations (ie Colorado and other places) and strain on species such as the Artic Polar Bear population.
ReplyDeleteAll of these effects are real and are happening as we speak. And they have *nothing* to do with the record temperatures being set all across the United States right now. They have everything to do with a warming trend that is being accelerated by man's continuous conversion of fossil based carbon fuel to carbon dioxide in the air.
Trends are now outside of the normal "cyclical" cyles that you love to draw attention to, and have been for more than 3 decades. I'm very sorry that you and Jaycee cannot cope with reality for some reason, but when your children and grandchildren look you in the eye someday and ask you why you didn't help solve the problem when you had a chance, I hope you will have the courage to be honest with them and answer truthfully.
The True Believer Twins are back!
ReplyDelete"None of us have made the assertion that Human induced global warming is evidenced by a hot summer."
Really?
Excerpt:
" 'I think there are very good reasons to believe that the current U.S. heat wave is at least partly caused by global warming,"'Kevin Trenberth, one of the nation's top global-warming computer modelers, wrote in an e-mail."
Or perhaps you think these folks are referring to some type of global warming that is NOT "human induced".
"I'm very sorry that you and Jaycee cannot cope with reality for some reason, but when your children and grandchildren look you in the eye someday and ask you why you didn't help solve the problem when you had a chance, I hope you will have the courage to be honest with them and answer truthfully."
ReplyDeleteI'm very sorry that you and your fellow True Believers cannot accept the reality that:
-- there is NO scientific consensus about global warming.
-- Water vapor is by far the largest contributor to the "greenhouse effect",
-- "Human induced" effects on global warming through CO2 production are somewhat less than 1/10 of one percent of the total, and therefore in effect:
-- There is NO practical impact to be gained from limiting "humnan induced" global warming.
Once again, we are THROUGH discussing this particular aspect of global warming on this blog. If you care to stay on topic for the threads posted, your contributions are welcome. If not, I reserve the right to eliminate your off topic spam.
Do you understand that clearly?
(Sigh)
ReplyDeleteHe obviously didn't understand.
Why am I not surprised?
The poster was warned that repetitive comments along the line he was using were not going to be tolerated, and would be considered spam.
ReplyDeleteThat particular aspect of the subject has been discussed at length here, and further discussion is fruitless. I asked that comments be limited to responses that addressed the subject matter of the particular thread.
The several warnings and of them were clear. The poster chose to ignore them.
Too bad.
It's called "editing", Stew.
Regarding Penguin's remark, if that's the meaning he/she meant for the word "us", he/she should have been more specific in the words used.